Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby motiondave » Sat 27. Oct 2012, 11:53

Ruxxenknubbt wrote:Hello Folks!

Although I have found the source for the motors, but unfortunately I can not find any information in the postings what type it is? Also, the attempt to read the uploaded image failed unfortunately!

Can anyone send me the partnumber of these motors please?!

Thank you in advance!


Which motors?
Floriskes?
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby yokoyoko » Sun 28. Oct 2012, 01:00

Although I have found the source for the motors, but unfortunately I can not find any information in the postings what type it is?


I think Floris is using the ZYT90-155-12 motor in combination with the MCP4 25:1 gearbox.

Motioncontrol has many different motors and gearboxes - on demand the can build nearly all combinations. The gearboxes are available in different materials too.

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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby Ruxxenknubbt » Mon 29. Oct 2012, 16:17

Sorry for that! I mean the Motors from floriske... ;)

Btw - thanks to yokoyoko for his answer!
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby value1 » Mon 29. Oct 2012, 16:30

As far as I can see it's these motors and gearboxes:
motors
gearboxes.
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby Roadster2 » Mon 29. Oct 2012, 16:46

value1 wrote:As far as I can see it's these motors and gearboxes:
motors
gearboxes.


Indeed it is, I have the same motors. Motion Control Products only have 25:1 ratio gearboxes available but I have a couple of 50:1 ratio gearboxes with metal casings if anyone is interested. I have a posting in the Private Marketplace forum.

I also have 3 x 25:1 ratio gearboxes available for a good price, also in the same ad.
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby yokoyoko » Mon 29. Oct 2012, 23:18

Motion Control Products only have 25:1 ratio gearboxes available


Just contact them - here's the datasheet:


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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby Ruxxenknubbt » Wed 31. Oct 2012, 19:21

Hello!

I have just watched this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... H8PS7MnPVQ

It occurred to me that the base plate will move up when accelerating? Is this caused by the wooden base!? Do you have any solution against this issue (thicker material or bracings)?

And what caused the squeal noise? Is it caused by the motors or the springs?

Thank you in advance!
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby floriske » Wed 31. Oct 2012, 22:30

Well spotted ;) the wood indeed flexes a bit, that's one of the downsides of the material. I don't mind since I do not notice it whilst driving.

I don't think thicker material would be the best way to prevent this. A simple steel frame underneath the base would be a better way I think. But as mentioned I don't notice it while driving so I'm not going to (yet).

It's my first build so it's been a big learning curve as well. There are some things I would do completely different if I would do a new build (highly unlikely though ;)).

One of them would be drastically improving the center of gravity by bringing the pivot closer to the seat base which would reduce the forces on the motors during tilting (reducing the flexing as well).

It would have been better to raise the pivot, have it stick through the bottom platform and mount it to the seat. That way the weight of the platform, seat base and pedals would have been underneath the pivot and the weight of the seat and driver above it, resulting in more balance. But it's too late for that *

One thing I might do in the future is lower the seat base so the center of gravity will be lower as well. But first I need to find some time to finish it as is and enjoy some time using it ;)

The squeaky noise is one of the slots in the potmeter arms that it's a bit too tight and needs a little sanding, nothing special.
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby Ruxxenknubbt » Fri 2. Nov 2012, 11:56

OK, after reading the whole thread i have found already all informations on page 1 ;)

Thanks for your patience!

Have you ever think about gas springs like ->these<- instead the springs that you already use?

Have nice day!
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Re: Floriske.nl's 2DOF Playseat GT Wiper motor Project

Postby yokoyoko » Fri 2. Nov 2012, 12:13

Hi,

I never used a "platform" sim but could imagine that "springs" with such high values of 200-450N would make the sim a bit sluggish?. Or am I wrong on this?

I think the main key is to find the center of gravity as exact as possible.
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