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Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby matsuda » Fri 5. Oct 2012, 11:37

Update:

Added up some video, enjoy:-)




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Introduction

Hello, fellows X-simers

I’m sort of newbie to simracing and simbuilders community and I’d like to give share my noobish experience with you. Especially it might be useful to someone who wants build their first simulator.

First of all, I have to say, I did not have any experience in building anything decent in my whole life. But as soon as I got my first set of wheel and pedals it has become clear to me that I need to build some sort of structure for it.

The reasons were obvious:
1. Table and chair is not really an ergonomic solution to be used as driving seat. I ended up with discomfort in lumbar after 2 hours playing in any sim game.
2. Wheel and pedals were not properly secured and were tend change their location if you push them really hard. It was really annoying to me. Even more that point # 1.
3. A need for future upgrade and installing additional devices like shifters, gauges etc. You must have something to mount them on, right?

The next question was - There do I start?

The criteria for the project was:
1. The construction must be made out of metal.
2. No welding during assembly process.
3. It must be practical and have modular / upgradable design

I have started to look around internet and found the solution called Joker / Uno
So basically it is 25 or 32 mm steel tube with set of different connectors:
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You can build quite impressive things with it for commercial or advertising purposes.
For example:
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Now it is time to show how finished sim cockpit looks like:
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Technical Details

The tubes I'm using are about 1.5 mm think so they can withstand up to 100 kg of weight per 1 m without being bended. The ordinary connector can withstand 25 kg of weight. But you can also get heavy duty ones which can go up to 50 kg.

Normally you would you use 4 connectors for holding your seat, it means the total load with ordinary connectors must not exceed: 4x25 kg = 100 kg. It means that the weight of your body + weight of the seat combined must be below 100 kg (for most people this assumption is correct).

This project had started originally as stationary sim rig. But due to modular and easily upgradable design I went to the next stage.

1. I’ve built the pivot myself. Check the video below:


I used needle bearing to make rotation as smooth as possible. Dimensions are ID = 25 mm, OD= 32 mm.
You can use 25 mm steel tube as axis and 32 connector as bearing housing. See picture bellow:
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2. Next, I went to SCN5 mounting

I have used:

Auto stabilizer linkages + some bearings
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Few connectors
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Bended 60 deg pipe
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Final result is
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P.S. Stay tuned I will update this thread with more details soon. (like components used, price, videos etc.)
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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby motiondave » Fri 5. Oct 2012, 11:52

nice job there, materials look good.
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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby matsuda » Fri 5. Oct 2012, 12:22

motiondave wrote:nice job there, materials look good.


Thanks, motiondave.

I can post some more info if anybody is interested in building such thing.
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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby floriske » Fri 5. Oct 2012, 13:44

Looking really good at first glance indeed!

I (and I bet others too) would love to see some more photos.
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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby matsuda » Fri 5. Oct 2012, 13:50

floriske wrote:Looking really good at first glance indeed!

I (and I bet others too) would love to see some more photos.


No probs I'll post some more (maybe video)
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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby jamesfonda » Sun 7. Oct 2012, 23:19

Hi.. im having problems trying ton configure my scn5 actuators..

they are recognized by Pc and de Converter detected them.

Run the Sender or Extractor, and everythings its ok.. but, when I go to the Game (Xsimraceway) it does not move anyway.
My email is jverdeza@gmail.com if you may help me..
Thanks

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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby matsuda » Mon 8. Oct 2012, 09:33

Hi,

First of all, you need to make sure that X-Sim Extractor is picking up the ingame values and they are sended correctly into X-Sim Converter

1. Run your game in windowed mode
2. Run your X-Sim Converter
3. Go to Input Setup tab in X-Sim Converter
4. Run your for 30 sec and make sure that values are changing while your are playing (Especially, take a look at lateral/longitudinal force and pitch/roll)
5. If everything is correct there, you need to dig into hardware related problems.

Update: Maybe it would be much better if you could replicate your request in software related thread: http://x-sim.de/forum/viewforum.php?f=16
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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby ferslash » Thu 11. Oct 2012, 20:34

really good looking sim, i am strugling with welted ugly metal, and ond the other hand, your "chromed" tubes woow.

i was googling a bit, and all that i found was a chinise company selling the tubes? where did you buy them, where are you from?

and.. of course it would be grate to see more pictures... it is like Sim-mography :d

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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby fooons » Thu 11. Oct 2012, 21:59

I love chromed steel, It looks very sophisticated!


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Re: Simple steel tube 2DOF SCN5 project

Postby matsuda » Fri 12. Oct 2012, 10:49

fooons wrote:I love chromed steel, It looks very sophisticated!


Regards fooons



Thanks, fooons.

And it is not very expensive too. The price for it is comparable to 80/20 aluminium
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