110v motor

by **199222** » Mon 4. Feb 2013, 01:16

ae pessoal.. tava veno no forum alguns gringos usam motores convencionais 110-220.. isso seria uma mao na roda
nao sei como e o controllador se pra 24v e dicifil imagina pra 110...

se pegassemos o sinal 12v do controlador e convertessemos pra 110? sei que perde muita energia e consome bastante,,,
sera que a resposta dos motores seriam demoradas? lembrano que isso iria puxa uma boa amperagem porcausa do conversor

pra quem nao intendeu,,, controlador---->>ponte-h 12v------conversor 12v pra 110v... motores

daria pra usar uns motores de 0.5 1.0 hp de boa... talves eu esteja so viajando o que acham sera inviavel?

hey folks i was reading the forum, and i saw that some guys are using conventional motor 110v-220v i don't know hows the controller for this voltage.. if 24v h-brigde its quite difficult around here if not impossible 110 will be impossible...

i was thinking in converter the 12v from the h-bridge into 110v using convertor in parallel.. to power strong motors iknow its not the best way and is gonna takes a lot of amps...
for who dosnt undo stood here goes

amc controller------>h-bridge 12v------->conversor 12v to 110---->motor

maybe those ideas Its just the effect of some drugs loool don't know if can use it... why do u guys think

noob speaking look

by **tronicgr** » Mon 4. Feb 2013, 03:02

No you are not crazy... :lol:

There are ways of doing that but different equipment than the AMC1.6 and conventional h-bridges. Have a look in this diagram:

SEW eurodrive movitrack b detailed diagram.pdf: (3.42 MiB) Downloaded 969 times

And have a look around in the project library I compiled about it:
AMC644USB Documentation and tools

Thanos

by **tronicgr** » Mon 4. Feb 2013, 19:32

Like I said, there are ways of doing it. You can either strive by yourself with arduino code and endless testing of interfaces trying to make it work or stick to a professional design that is proven that works. And materials and custom work doesn't come free either.

BTW my name is Thanos, not Thomas... :lol:

PS, Arduino is a learning platform for kids. Too much code is hidden behind ready commands (libraries) that makes it virtually useless for realtime applications unless you are building robotics...

by **motiondave** » Tue 5. Feb 2013, 13:39

tronicgr wrote:Like I said, there are ways of doing it. You can either strive by yourself with arduino code and endless testing of interfaces trying to make it work or stick to a professional design that is proven that works. And materials and custom work doesn't come free either.

BTW my name is Thanos, not Thomas...

PS, Arduino is a learning platform for kids. Too much code is hidden behind ready commands (libraries) that makes it virtually useless for realtime applications unless you are building robotics...

Take it easy Thanos...we know your card is good, we are trying to give others an alternative and make it cheap.
We would all like a $400 control card, but if we need to look for a cheaper option, people have the right to do so.
And remember, not all of us are programmers, we are mostly noobs getting a DIY sim built.

by **tronicgr** » Tue 5. Feb 2013, 17:17

just some math... 6x jrk12v12 = $600

by **adrianovrm** » Tue 5. Feb 2013, 23:20

Hey, bob... l think l have the money but dont know how do it.. l m arduino user almost finishing my project with arduino.. l think more 1 month l will end, but l d like to know the path to go with 110volts motors.. how should be the parts ? like at DC motors , we have H bridges, POTS and microconotrller(arduino) in my case. WHats are the parts ,Blocks we should have to conrole and AC motor, help me, just show the way, and l will study and implement ...

by **adrianovrm** » Tue 5. Feb 2013, 23:22

l saw in some place that AC motors just run in one direct so l thought it was impossible tp control them, l just saw speed control . nothing about clockwise and counterclockwise control as we have at DC motors. help me, show me teh way and l ll do it

by **tronicgr** » Tue 5. Feb 2013, 23:47

Well.. since is so easy to do it with arduino, I let the arduino experts to help you.

I refuse to program in arduino enviroment... I compromised for the Digital Dashboard (see it in my signature) but only because it wasn't worth my time to try to do it faster or more accurate.

The programming enviroment I use is far more friendly and direct (in terms of registers access) for atmel AVR microcontrollers. The arduino is nothing more than a generic programming environment for specific atmel chip series. Being free makes it more accessible to thousands of people around the world that each one places his brick (libraries for devices) in this. Its easy to take code blocks from all over and combine them, but a different story to program something yourself from scratch.

by **motiondave** » Wed 6. Feb 2013, 14:29

tronicgr wrote:Well.. since is so easy to do it with arduino, I let the arduino experts to help you.

I refuse to program in arduino enviroment... I compromised for the Digital Dashboard (see it in my signature) but only because it wasn't worth my time to try to do it faster or more accurate.

The programming enviroment I use is far more friendly and direct (in terms of registers access) for atmel AVR microcontrollers. The arduino is nothing more than a generic programming environment for specific atmel chip series. Being free makes it more accessible to thousands of people around the world that each one places his brick (libraries for devices) in this. Its easy to take code blocks from all over and combine them, but a different story to program something yourself from scratch.

well at least sirnoname and prilad have helped compile the codes for plug in for the arduino.

by **tronicgr** » Wed 6. Feb 2013, 18:47

if the amc was really any good it would have been commercialized by now, come on bite the bullet. Sorry

Really? I'm around in this motion simulator forums longer than you think. In fact, when x-sim software had support only for pneumatic interfaces (version 1.6) I made it work with DC motors back then (Basic Stamp2 interface). And I was providing the people with real working solutions and setting the standard for each step of the progress of the x-sim software (and not only x-sim, Ian's BFF, Keith's Portdrvr etc...). If I had the capital to invest in mass-producing electronics for our simulators, its cost would be even less than a arduino / motor drive set. But my job is not to make business here. My intentions is to help a "few" good people that are serious into making good quality simulators for their homes. Sorry, I don't have the time to help all the world (time is also money...).

well at least sirnoname and prilad have helped compile the codes for plug in for the arduino.

I compiled code for adruino too to share (for my digital dashboard project), so? Prilad isn't even using the arduino interface to code it (its assembly language!!!) giving only the already compiled firmware (not source code). Sirnoname's code is open source and cannot be commercialized because x-sim software itself cannot be sold commercially either, since its using lots of third party SDK, and its arduino code is just a compilation of existing code trimmed to perform specific type communication through its plugin on the x-sim side.

BTW, I'm using ATmega1280 with my newer model (AMC1280USB) for which I choose to use a arduino mega board that is nothing more than a large "breakout" for this surface mount microcontroller... :lol: